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Doomus · May 12, 2007, 01:06 PM // 13:06

It'd be quite cool to visit Kryta and find that the location of the Ascalon Settlement is now a thriving city.

General Marzaq · May 13, 2007, 01:42 PM // 13:42

"A new God is born! A god that will destroy the others and bring about the end of the world! The cycle begins again!"

-Mad Soul, After completion of the Nightfall campaign

Free Runner · May 13, 2007, 03:25 PM // 15:25

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Originally Posted by General Marzaq

"A new God is born! A god that will destroy the others and bring about the end of the world! The cycle begins again!"

-Mad Soul, After completion of the Nightfall campaign

That doesnt really have any bearing on this whatsoever

Just a paranoid spirit that has turned insane in torment. The name gives it away.

General Marzaq · May 13, 2007, 05:21 PM // 17:21

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

Just a paranoid spirit that has turned insane in torment. The name gives it away.

Yep, just a paranoid spirit that has touched by Abaddon knowledge...

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"I do not believe Abaddon to be an eternal god. There were other gods before him, before he was imprisoned here. And I believe that while the power he uses cannot be destroyed, he maybe supplanted, as he supplanted his predecessor." -The Apostate

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"Before the time of Grenth, when death was ruled by a cruel and unjust god, there stood a tower and a throne on this very plain. But Grenth rose up and destroyed the one called Dhuum and shattered down his tower, leaving only these storms of chaos as a reminder of the power that once held dominion here." -Reaper of the Chaos Planes

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It was almost three thousand years ago that a race
of serpents stepped out of the Rift onto the soil
of Tyria. Unlike ordinary serpents, these moved
upright, used language, and adhered to an elaborate
culture. They had been summoned by the old gods,
brought to this world to be the custodians. Their task:
shepherd the other creatures of the land through this
time of transition, while the gods continued to create the
world around them.- History of Tyria

Also the gap between the first known action of the Gods and the Giants Era:

1769 BE Serpents arrive in Tyria.
10,000 BE Last signs of Giganticus Lupicus (the Great Giants) on Tyrian continent (best guess).

And a possible Titans-Destroyer connexion:
The Foundry of Failed Creations
Stone Basilica in Sorrow's Furnace.

Quote:

"I wish to see this to its end. Over the eons, much has changed in Tyria. But not these Titans."- Ancient Seer

Goldenboy · May 13, 2007, 08:00 PM // 20:00

I'm thinking that the Heroes of Ascalon will have their own monuments in the HoM (Since they're essentially adventuring along side you in GW1).

Sophitia Leafblade · May 14, 2007, 09:30 AM // 09:30

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Originally Posted by Pericles

I apologize for my scepticism but relatively 250 years is not that much

Not that much!? in the space of 250 years they could have had an industrial revolution, developed Cars and aircraft, discovered the atom and annihilated the world in nuclear warfare. Although im 100% sure that wont happen in Tyria, im just pointing out in 250 years ALOT can change civilization wise and even climatically

Guildmaster Cain · May 14, 2007, 09:53 AM // 09:53

Maybe the 'true giants' were Titans, like in the greek myths. Titans were sort of the ancestors of the gods that are known nowadays.

First being in the universe was Choas (Khaos), he had several children, Gaia, Tartarus, Nyx, Erebus and Eros. Gaia bore Uranus, whom became the leader/king of the gods. He married Gaia (his mother) and got several children again. But he hated his children and hid them from the world. Gaia roused Kronos, one of Uranus Children to overthrow Uranus. He succeeded, becoming the new ruler of the gods, together with his sister Rhea (name from GW), whom he married. Afraid of being overthrown by his own children, he ate them alive when they were born. Only Zeus was saved from this fate, because his mother hid him. Zeus eventually grew up strong enough to force his father to throw up his brothers and sisters that were still in Kronos' stomach. Together with his brothers and sisters, he overthrew the Titans. Zeus married his sister Hera and became the leader of the gods.

Things sound familiar? Sibling gods, overthrowing former gods, gigantic predecessors

Aubis · May 15, 2007, 02:14 AM // 02:14

Maybe the gods and kormir will tranform into guildwars versions of the titans and most of the Heroes of Ascalon with turn into gods or with the new race find out that tyria has more gods than help the old gods like minor gods.

Clord · May 15, 2007, 09:02 AM // 09:02

You mean possibly Demigods.

Etta · May 15, 2007, 09:13 AM // 09:13

I just watch Steamboy on dvd, so I'll go with what Sophitia said. A bit like Acanum, where the steam tech and magic have an uneasy co-existence.

Free Runner · May 15, 2007, 03:17 PM // 15:17

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Originally Posted by General Marzaq

Yep, just a paranoid spirit that has touched by Abaddon knowledge...

No..just a paranoid spirit that has been subjected to torment...like i said. He was not called Mad Spirit for nothing.

Abaddon had a reason for Nightfall.He had been beaten and chained down for hundreds of years and had become insane. He wanted to throw the world into Nightfall due to the Gods chaining him down after his defeat. And furthermore it took him well over 250 years to actually put his Nightfall plan to action. Now please explain to me why the Goddess Of Truth would want to destroy the world?

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Originally Posted by Sophitia Leafblade

Not that much!? in the space of 250 years they could have had an industrial revolution, developed Cars and aircraft, discovered the atom and annihilated the world in nuclear warfare. Although im 100% sure that wont happen in Tyria, im just pointing out in 250 years ALOT can change civilization wise and even climatically

Yes an example of change in GW is Cantha. One disastor and Cantha began to change over a period of 200 years. Its landscape was completely changed,peoples way of life changed ect.This to me is goign to be the interesting part of GW2. Seeing how the story changed after the final mission of the Heros throughtout those 250 years.

General Marzaq · May 15, 2007, 04:06 PM // 16:06

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

No..just a paranoid spirit that has been subjected to torment...like i said. He was not called Mad Spirit for nothing.

Right, but the Realm of the Torment it’s strongly influenced by the power of Abaddon God of knowledge.

"Everyone here has been tainted by Abaddon in some way. How does one become tainted, you ask? It seems even the briefest contact with one of his servants is enough to pass on the taint of Abaddon." - Bureht Liuniz

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

Now please explain to me why the Goddess Of Truth would want to destroy the world?

Don’t interpret this sentence literally...

See:

The death of Abaddon awakes the Great Destroyer.

"Something moved beneath the sands of the Crystal Desert. Hungry spirits, seeking flesh." - Dynastic Spirit
The Goddess Of Truth pronounces the true name of the Great Destroyer accidentally.

If the true name of either is spoken aloud, it would mean the end of the world as we know it. - High Priest Alkar

Free Runner · May 15, 2007, 07:18 PM // 19:18

To clear something up when you said this:

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"A new God is born! A god that will destroy the others and bring about the end of the world! The cycle begins again!"

-Mad Soul, After completion of the Nightfall campaign

I assumed you were saying that Kormir,Godess of Truth would turn around and try another Nightfall type event. But i'm now unsure as to wether you are talking about the Goddess Of Truth or your saying Abaddons defeat woke the Great Destoryer who in turn will try to destroy the world?

themeteor · May 15, 2007, 07:42 PM // 19:42

Strange/random theroy:
The Gods of old chained "the great destroyer" down or did the whole titan thing on him Abbadon was a big part of this OR whom ever was before Abbadon for whatever reason Kormir does not use any of her power to keep the chains on the great destroyer, assuming he is so powerful the chains need to maintained.

This lets the great destroyer break free, as the rest as the say is the future

General Marzaq · May 15, 2007, 08:35 PM // 20:35

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Originally Posted by Free Runner

To clear something up when you said this:

I assumed you were saying that Kormir,Godess of Truth would turn around and try another Nightfall type event. But i'm now unsure as to wether you are talking about the Goddess Of Truth or your saying Abaddons defeat woke the Great Destoryer who in turn will try to destroy the world?

I think the statement refers to the Great Destroyer. It is more probable that than another Mad God.

In any case, the most important part of this sentence is that it suggest to us that exists somekind of god cycle and that the present gods not always have existed (the Great Destroyer involved).

Perhaps the Great Destroyer it's somekind of primeval god that existed before this universe was born. Somekind of Beast of the end of days.

Guardian of the Light · May 15, 2007, 11:24 PM // 23:24

Guys there are 6 heroes in total we just haven't met the 6th one after the searing

If we look at the first heroes we've met so far.

Devona the Warrior,
Cynn the Elementalist,
Aidan the Ranger
Mhenlo the Monk,
Eve the Necromancer.

We notice that someone's missing. Who's the mesmer?

Wait isn't there a character we've met and these forums have been looking for since the beginning of Guild Wars?

I think I know who it is

and her name starts with a G.

and what about the other 4 professions don't they get heroes too?

I believe that these heroes will have desedents that will decide the fate of tryia in GW2!

Onarik Amrak · May 16, 2007, 04:03 AM // 04:03

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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light

Guys there are 6 heroes in total we just haven't met the 6th one after the searing

If we look at the first heroes we've met so far.

Devona the Warrior,
Cynn the Elementalist,
Aidan the Ranger
Mhenlo the Monk,
Eve the Necromancer.

We notice that someone's missing. Who's the mesmer?

Wait isn't there a character we've met and these forums have been looking for since the beginning of Guild Wars?

I think I know who it is

and her name starts with a G.

and what about the other 4 professions don't they get heroes too?

I believe that these heroes will have desedents that will decide the fate of tryia in GW2!

Good theory!

squan · May 16, 2007, 08:06 AM // 08:06

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Originally Posted by Guardian of the Light

Guys there are 6 heroes in total we just haven't met the 6th one after the searing

If we look at the first heroes we've met so far.

Devona the Warrior,
Cynn the Elementalist,
Aidan the Ranger
Mhenlo the Monk,
Eve the Necromancer.

We notice that someone's missing. Who's the mesmer?

Wait isn't there a character we've met and these forums have been looking for since the beginning of Guild Wars?

I think I know who it is

and her name starts with a G.

and what about the other 4 professions don't they get heroes too?

I believe that these heroes will have desedents that will decide the fate of tryia in GW2!

I dont know if there is a 6th hero, but if so i also think its Gwen. i was just reading wiki and i saw a interesting quote:

"When I grow up, I'm going to be a hero like my daddy. I'd like to be a warrior, but the mesmers' outfits are nicer, don't you think?"

i also did not know Gwens mother "Sarah"was in the underworld

never noticed her in the hundreds of uw runs i have done.

And about the 4 other heroes, since it are heroes of ascalon i will stick with 5/6

ChavSlayer · May 17, 2007, 12:56 PM // 12:56

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Originally Posted by mrmango

Also, Abaddon is already gone. Bad theory for other reasons said above. Please wait for EotN.

But he was replaced by Kormir.